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Thursday, September 19, 2013

I'm White., He's Black Does It Really Matter?

I was reading the blog post http://jezebel.com/im-black-hes-white-who-cares-i-do-actually-1189595810 on Fb and started to reply there until I realized it was a bit long for a reply. so I decided to write it all down here if anyone cared to know
this is an issue that hits home with me. my fathers side of the family was very KKK. we were not allow to watch different strokes at our grandparents house because and I quote" those N are not in their proper place." Luckily for my sister and I our mother didn't share the same views .We grew up learning what they told us, stuff like if a baby has 1 black and 1 white parent it will be polka dot, wasn't true but she never explain what they would be.

When I moved to Alabama I dated my first black man ever. BTW the south really is no place for a white girl partial raised by the KKK to start dating black men. you got to understand I thought when I got there I would see black and white water fountains still. our little town in Oregon didn't have any blacks until I was in HS. I remember as a small child watching them chase a black family out of town.

I complained one day cause my black bf wouldn't take me out anywhere.I thought he was ashamed of dating a white girl. He said he didn't think I was ready but I thought I was. We went to a Japaneses restaurant were they cook the food at the table. There was a white family at the table with us. He took the outside seat which left me next to a white woman. One of the men actually traded places with her saying she shouldn't be that close to me. Like she would catch something from me??? My boyfriend at the time just gave me a look like don't start anything. I soon found out them saying things to my face was the least of my worry. In Huntsville Ala there is still alot of pain and prejudiced on both side. There were a number of times black women would threaten to beat me up. My bf mothers was just as bad as my grandfather.My bf would always say if they were older then him he would just smile and not say anything. He figured they had reason for what they said and that they were never taught better. However if they were young he didn't think the same way. He got in heated fights sometimes over these issues.To this day I am still a bit afraid of black women and I have meet some really nice ones here.When I had to move my stuff out of my (white)ex husband house I called the cops to come help.From the moment my bf and I showed up the cops were nasty to us. The cops were standing on the side of the front door when we went to walk past them, they shoved my bf. he locked his knees and didn't fall. so they pushed him down on the lawn and handcuffed him. why because he said they didn't need to have an attitude.. Then they threaten to arrest me too for trespassing. They told me I had 15 minutes to get off the property with or without my stuff. BTW my name was on the lease of the house. But as I had a young son I was afraid of what would happen to him if I fought back. so I got a few things and left.

Here on the West Coast thing are not as blatant but If you think that the prejudice is gone you are wrong. When I work in Portland as a manger of a rent to own store I got reminded of it. I got a call from the local police verifying one of my deliver drives really work for me.I ask if there was a problem with his driving and was told no. So why did they pull him over well it seem they thought he stole the big truck with the company name all over it. I assured them it wasn't stolen. they finally let him and the truck go. When he got back to the office I notice he was also wearing the company shirt with the logo on it. So what he stole the truck and a uniform? And yes he was black. things like this are still happening in today world not only to black but many other minority as well. Today I do date a black man . It is not uncommon to see me and my white best Girlfriend with black men in a public setting. Yes we get stared at. In fact I was talking to my mom about it. She said I should turn around and say I know we make a great looking couple thanks. So far I haven't had anyone say anything to me but if I could read minds I am sure there something less then friendly behind those dirty looks. alot of time though my boyfriend is the only black person there too. When we first started dating he would make a joke about being the token black again and all the whites would laugh. Why was it his responsibility to make the whites feel better about staring at him?

Since I am always afraid I will say something dumb I learned in childhood, I am mostly careful about what I say around any minority, but especially blacks as they were a favorite for my KKK family. Sometime to the point where my BF will look at me and roll his eyes, When I start apologizing for something I said that no one thought it as bad as I thought it sounded. I am sure you already notice that I do not even spelling out the word my Grandfather use. I have a real problem with the word. to the point I even cringe when black people use it. My Bf was sharing with me a Black comedian he really liked but ever other word out of his mouth was N this and N that. I couldn't get pass that word so never really heard any of his jokes. My Mother taught us not to cuss and although I do at times, this is one word I almost never use. I fought with my dad's family when my kids where small. I asked them repeatedly not to cuss around my kids and they never understood.To them they were not cussing , after all what was so a profane or obscene about calling people what they are.I had to leave several time before they figure out I was serious.

I still say little things that I shouldn't but I am working on paying attention. Boy is one of my favorite things to call all men(even white men). Most of the Men I know are younger then me :P. However we were watching a trailer for a movie coming out and I realized how it could sound to others. I didn't like it when the white man called the slave,who was a grown man, a boy at all.

I grew up knowing it was wrong to treat others differently after all we are all human but I never learned why they were so different. They didn't have black history month when I was in school. So all I learned about black Americans was what little was cover in the civil war.  I agree with this women point that her boyfriend almost grew up in a different world and why didn't someone explain the difference to him. there are alot of American that have no knowledge of what they are saying when they say "privileged". to me the word meant rich before I met my current boyfriend.

Another point I am sure someone has thought reading is why does she say black and not African American? I believe we are all Americans and the only reason to use black and white was to show a point. Being Proud of your ancestors is a great thing but aren't we putting up more walls by stating where one set of people may have come from ? I recently heard that some scientist believe we all might have come from Africa, black and white and everyone. So would that make me, a redhead white girl, African American?? If you were Born and Raised here that makes you an American. If you have become a Citizen by taking the test that makes you an American. I am happy to use what ever boxes you what to identify with but to me we are all human and that is the only box that matters.

What is important is that we learned to talk to each other and realize everyone has there own belief but that doesn't make them any less of a person with rights any less important then anyone else's. I look forward to the day when a green man can walk hand in hand with a purple man and no one thinks to stare.


Anonymity Of Internet Is It Helping Or Hurting?


Almost everyone I know is either talking about a blog or thinking of writing a blog. Isn't it nice to live in a world where technology is readily available to almost everyone? For people like me who have little patient, this is a great way to listen to other peoples opinions. after all I can just stop reading it or even delete it from my system if they annoy me and no one ever needs to know. I don't have to worry about my mom's voice in my head saying "be polite or just don't say anything if you don't have anything nice to say". And my ADD doesn't upset anyone when I want to voice an opinion but wind up talking over them for fear I will forget my own thoughts. (In one on one conversation it still considered rude to jot down a note while they are still talking)


But is all this Anonymity making easier for us all to talk or harder? After all if I write a blog how do you even know if I have any clue what I am talking about??  How do you really know if I am a white witch or black christian ?
How many people read the Help or saw the movie and thought someone really did talk to all those black women? Or maybe you thought it was really written by a Southern black women??? How many still do not realize it is pure fiction and was written from a Southern white women's thoughts of how the blacks might have responded during that time?? I will be the first to say the writer made it seem believable. As a White women raised on the West Coast, who half her family was KKK, I thought it was true. I felt so betrayed when I turn to the last chapter only to learn the real identity of the writer :(

This reminds me of the old saying "do you believe everything you see on tv??" If we listen to the real experts on how blacks think and feel; what are we afraid we might find out? (Experts like black themselves) Why is it still so hard to get a true dialog going between the sexes , between the races, between the ages??? I would think the internet would be a great place to voice an opinion with out attacking or taking it personal. After all, I don't personal know the other person so why should I think they are personal attacking me? I realize there is still many subjects we are afraid to approach out of fear. but what are we afraid of ? The internet gives us a chance to not see race, religion or even sex why not use this to our advantage and get the talks started.


Today my daughter had bible study with two charming black women. They are new coming to our home and talking with her in ASL. This is giving her a chance to interact with others. This is great for her,despite the fact they have different religious beliefs then me, I am still able to talk to them about whites writing for blacks about blacks. IF an Seven day Adventist and a Pagan can have a race conversation without attacking each other why can't others? We are all still stuck on this planet together and more over some of us are stuck in this country together.


Living in a country that was based on freedom why can't we see when we are taking other people freedoms away? Why is a black gay transsexual man any less then a white straight man? Why is a Women still less important then a man? of course I don't think everyone think that there is a difference but there is still a hidden societal agreement in our media and other places that say we are not all equal. So now instead of coming out to their faces and saying it society say it in more subtle ways. I already know some of you have gone to the other extreme and said well if that is the case why have laws at all? I don't have all the answer and if I did what would be the point of starting a conversation with others? After all once we stop learning are we really living at all?


So I guess to sum up my thought that probably seem as jumble as my ADD by now.


Does it matter what place the one who start the conversation comes from? Does it matter more that I am white pretending to understand black after watching it from the outside or does it matter more that the conversation is/was started?